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Realist's avatar

This is a smart move, along with bringing gold home, on Frances part.

RedBaron's avatar

Would be surprised if the rest of Europe is going to want to sign onto a French messaging app. France acts like it is self-sufficient. They would be wise to share the cost and use the skills of most of the other larger EU countries. After all, France's industry, of all types, is notorious unproductive.

Realist's avatar

My thoughts on the EU are that it was a colossal mistake, destined to fail.

Ronny Graham's avatar

This is a personal foible of Macron whose husband is fed up seeing his husband being derided, and hand-wrestled into ignominy by Trump . The French government is, like all European countries, a vassal of corporate banking interests and US hegemony.

Realist's avatar

"The French government is, like all European countries, a vassal of corporate banking interests and US hegemony."

With this, I agree, but perhaps France has seen the light.

Ronny Graham's avatar

There is no such thing as 'France', - Europe is moribund and Macron is an idiot

Terrance Ó Domhnaill's avatar

I've been watching this for a few months now and the transition is in fact underway in the EU. It's a daunting task (I'm a retired IT tech, so I know), so it will take some time but as France and the EU slowly divest away from the U.S. in many ways, not just tech. Once the EU publicly starts divesting so will much of the rest of the world. China has stopped using any U.S. tech. I read a story a couple of months ago that they invented their own competitive OS systems for their people and banned Microsoft from Chinese PC's. So the divesture is happening.

John Setaro's avatar

As in a personal life, if you let others have too much control over you, you may find the benefits of that control may not always prove to be in your best interest- Vive la France!

RedBaron's avatar

It is interesting that shortly after this story, there have been two different exploits which affect Linux version all the way back to 2017. The reason it goes back that far is because there are major versions and then minor updates. Here's the story in all its technical glory. It affects virtually every major version of Linus out there. It is a long link: https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/cyber-security/dirty-frag-exploit-gets-root-on-most-linux-machines-since-2017-no-patches-available-no-warning-given-copy-fail-like-vulnerability-had-its-embargo-broken

Fred Potgieter's avatar

It's British people fault because it could be energy on independent with off shore drilling for gas and oil .so don't cry because your own government f you . just buy United States gas and oil .

RedBaron's avatar

France lives in a glass house if they are going to throw stones about ignoring international law. When they were thrown out of most of their African previous colonies, France has plotted to overthrow some of those leaders. In January, there was an attempted coup in Burkina Faso and very recently there was an attack on Mali, also attempting a coup.

Of course, France also ignores those who came to France from Africa and refuse to assimilate into French culture. Several cities now have no-go zones where even the police do their best to stay away from. Think about that; an area of the country where even the police are afraid to go! Of course, the French government doesn't seem to care about this at all, as the solution is harder and tougher. Most governments just want to trim around the edges and pretend they are doing anything. I also suspect much of that "French" gold is actually "owned" by the EU Central Bank. Italy found that out recently with what they thought was "their" gold.

Guven Cagil's avatar

Thanks Lena!

Question for consideration for Lena and for any watching this: What are the other options to the 4-or-so major OS platforms for both individuals and governments besides that of Linux?

Guven Cagil's avatar

Why does this feel like Deja Vu? I thought I heard this story before like from a few years ago, at least witht the Linux. Oh, it was me!

David Cooper's avatar

Aren't France building the USA ten submarines? And they're also the most efficient with nuclear reactor construction. Watch, they're gonna put screen doors with squeaky hinges.

RedBaron's avatar

No. France was supposed to be building Australia submarines but we stuck our big nose in and Australia cancelled their submarines and now are going to buy ours. The problem is we build submarines slowly and haven't built any more than the US Navy's needs, so no one really knows how they are going to manage to make all these "extra" submarines. They will no doubt be somewhat different, as I doubt we want to hand over even to an ally every piece of our secret submarine gear.

Electric Boat and Newport News share building submarines. In other words, as in much of war material, it is effectively a monopoly.

Fred Potgieter's avatar

I agree with trump the British people have never been our friends we should triple everyone that didn't let us use our bases . why do need them if can't use them

RedBaron's avatar

The UK didn't want to be involved in this war. You need to remember that typically before starting a war, we sit down with allies and let them know what's happening. At least that way they have time to prepare and appreciate the heads-up. Trump has tariffed the UK, mocked their Prime Minister, and other similar actions and then you think the UK is just going to suddenly help out the US? The saw cuts both ways.

Fred Potgieter's avatar

someone run a phone off this system so we can all get away from Google . be a good blessing

RedBaron's avatar

I have replaced as many Google components on my phone with alternatives and disabled (and uninstalled for the few you can) those Google apps. I don't allow automatic updates, as often those updates are either for components I don't use or of little benefit. I use Proton Email and Proton's VPN when connected to the Internet.